{"id":14739,"date":"2013-06-03T09:59:47","date_gmt":"2013-06-03T07:59:47","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.gaches.com\/?p=14739"},"modified":"2020-07-06T10:15:45","modified_gmt":"2020-07-06T08:15:45","slug":"challenges-interview-de-pierre-gaches-comment-un-patron-de-pme-a-fait-tombe-un-cartel-dans-la-chimie","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.gaches.com\/en\/challenges-interview-de-pierre-gaches-comment-un-patron-de-pme-a-fait-tombe-un-cartel-dans-la-chimie\/","title":{"rendered":"[Juridique] Comment un patron de PME a fait tomb\u00e9 un cartel dans la chimie &#8211; Challenges"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"fusion-fullwidth fullwidth-box fusion-builder-row-1 nonhundred-percent-fullwidth non-hundred-percent-height-scrolling\"  style='background-color: rgba(255,255,255,0);background-position: center center;background-repeat: no-repeat;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;'><div class=\"fusion-builder-row fusion-row\"><div  class=\"fusion-layout-column fusion_builder_column fusion_builder_column_1_1 fusion-builder-column-0 fusion-one-full fusion-column-first fusion-column-last 1_1\"  style='margin-top:10px;margin-bottom:10px;'><div class=\"fusion-column-wrapper\" style=\"padding: 0px 0px 0px 0px;background-position:left top;background-repeat:no-repeat;-webkit-background-size:cover;-moz-background-size:cover;-o-background-size:cover;background-size:cover;\"   data-bg-url=\"\"><div class=\"fusion-button-wrapper\"><style type=\"text\/css\">.fusion-button.button-1 {border-radius:2px;}<\/style><a class=\"fusion-button button-flat fusion-button-default-size button-default button-1 fusion-button-default-span fusion-button-default-type\" target=\"_self\" href=\"https:\/\/www.gaches.com\/en\/actualite\/\"><span class=\"fusion-button-text\">&lt; Back<\/span><\/a><\/div><div class=\"fusion-clearfix\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><div  class=\"fusion-layout-column fusion_builder_column fusion_builder_column_1_1 fusion-builder-column-1 fusion-one-full fusion-column-first fusion-column-last 1_1\"  style='margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;'><div class=\"fusion-column-wrapper\" style=\"padding: 0px 0px 0px 0px;background-position:left top;background-repeat:no-repeat;-webkit-background-size:cover;-moz-background-size:cover;-o-background-size:cover;background-size:cover;\"   data-bg-url=\"\"><div class=\"fusion-text\"><div class=\"content-main content-main-full content-article-start\">\n<div class=\"article-start\">\n<h1>Quand un patron de PME fait tomber un cartel dans la chimie<\/h1>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"content-main\">\n<div class=\"article-start\">\n<p class=\"article-infos\">Par\u00a0<a class=\"signature\" href=\"https:\/\/www.challenges.fr\/auteurs\/alice-merieux_72\/\">Alice M\u00e9rieux<\/a>\u00a0le\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.challenges.fr\/index\/2013\/06\/03\/\">03.06.2013 \u00e0 13h09<\/a>, mis \u00e0 jour le 03.06.2013 \u00e0 13h09<\/p>\n<div class=\"article-chapo\">INTERVIEW- Pierre Gaches (Gaches Chimie) raconte \u00e0 Challenges.fr la fa\u00e7on dont il a collabor\u00e9 avec l\u2019Autorit\u00e9 de la concurrence pour faire tomber le cartel de la distribution de produits chimiques.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"article-image\">\n<div class=\"in\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"lazyloaded\" src=\"https:\/\/www.challenges.fr\/assets\/img\/2013\/06\/03\/cover-r4x3w1000-5797db1edda26-un-laboratoire-de-l-industrie-chimique.jpg\" alt=\"Un laboratoire de l'industrie chimique\" data-src=\"https:\/\/www.challenges.fr\/assets\/img\/2013\/06\/03\/cover-r4x3w1000-5797db1edda26-un-laboratoire-de-l-industrie-chimique.jpg\" \/><\/div>\n<p><span class=\"visuel-credits\">Un laboratoire de l&rsquo;industrie chimique<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"wrap-to-row\">(C) SIPA<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<article class=\"container-inside-right\">\n<div class=\"corps\">\n<p>Le toulousain Pierre Gaches, 57 ans, \u00e0 la t\u00eate de Gaches Chimie, est un tenace. Il lutte depuis 2002 contre Brenntag, un monstre de 10 milliards d&rsquo;euros de chiffre d&rsquo;affaires, propri\u00e9t\u00e9 du fonds d&rsquo;investissement BC Partners, qui domine de loin (50 \u00e0 55 % de parts de march\u00e9) son march\u00e9, la distribution de commodit\u00e9s chimiques, ces solvants, javel et autres soude que produisent Exxon, Solvay, Shell ou Rhodia et qu&rsquo;utilisent \u00e0 peu pr\u00e8s toutes les entreprises industrielles, de Heineken \u00e0 Saint Gobain, en passant par Beneteau.<\/p>\n<div id=\"pub_inarticle1_ads\"><\/div>\n<p>Ce 29 mai 2013, Pierre Gaches a enfin obtenu une victoire : la condamnation par l&rsquo;Autorit\u00e9 de la concurrence de Brenntag et ses complices (Univar ou Solvadis) \u00e0 une amende de 79 millions d&rsquo;euros pour entente sur les prix. C&rsquo;est la huiti\u00e8me sanction la plus forte inflig\u00e9e par l&rsquo;Autorit\u00e9 depuis sa cr\u00e9ation. Et encore\u2026 Cette affaire n&rsquo;ayant pu \u00e9clater que gr\u00e2ce \u00e0 ce qu&rsquo;on appelle une \u00a0\u00bb proc\u00e9dure de cl\u00e9mence \u00ab\u00a0, l&rsquo;amende a \u00e9t\u00e9 nettement minor\u00e9e pour \u00a0\u00bb f\u00e9liciter \u00a0\u00bb les principaux d\u00e9linquants de leur repentance. En effet, entre le 20 septembre et le 13 d\u00e9cembre 2006, Solvadis, Brenntag puis Univar se sont rendues de leur plein gr\u00e9 devant l&rsquo;Autorit\u00e9 de la concurrence pour plaider coupable\u2026 et d\u00e9noncer leurs petits camarades. Une proc\u00e9dure \u00e0 la vertu morale peu \u00e9vidente mais qui permet \u00e0 la police du march\u00e9 de d\u00e9couvrir des m\u00e9faits bien cach\u00e9s.<\/p>\n<div id=\"native \" class=\"\"><\/div>\n<p>A l&rsquo;origine de ce soudain acte de contrition collectif, Pierre Gaches, donc. Satisfait de la d\u00e9cision de l&rsquo;Autorit\u00e9 de la concurrence, qui donne raison \u00e0 ses accusations de longue date, il t\u00e9moigne, en exclusivit\u00e9 pour Challenges :<\/p>\n<p><strong>Comment a d\u00e9marr\u00e9 cette affaire ?<\/strong><\/p>\n<div id=\"pub_inarticle2_ads\"><\/div>\n<p>Cela a commenc\u00e9 en 1999, quand Daniel Pithois, alors patron de Brenntag en France, est venu me voir pour racheter ma soci\u00e9t\u00e9 Gaches Chimie. Du jour o\u00f9 j&rsquo;ai refus\u00e9, cette entreprise m&rsquo;a livr\u00e9 une guerre des prix sans scrupule. Elle a fait pression sur tous mes fournisseurs pour qu&rsquo;ils cessent de me livrer, ce qu&rsquo;ils ont fait. Au bout de quelques ann\u00e9es, j&rsquo;avais perdu 50% de mes approvisionnements. Cela a \u00e9t\u00e9 tr\u00e8s dur.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Qu&rsquo;avez-vous tent\u00e9 ?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>En 2002, je suis all\u00e9 voir la DRCCRF puis l&rsquo;Autorit\u00e9 de la concurrence pour d\u00e9noncer leurs prix pr\u00e9dateurs et la captation de mes fournisseurs. Mais sa d\u00e9cision, de 2006, ne m&rsquo;a pas \u00e9t\u00e9 favorable. Consid\u00e9rant que le march\u00e9 n&rsquo;\u00e9tait pas national mais r\u00e9gional. R\u00e9sultat : elle donnait un permis de tuer \u00e0 Brenntag puisqu&rsquo;il \u00e9tait le seul \u00e0 \u0153uvrer au niveau national, tordant le bras de chacun de ses concurrents r\u00e9gionaux.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Avez-vous abandonn\u00e9 ?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Au contraire. J&rsquo;avais entendu parler de cette histoire de cartel et d&rsquo;entente sur les prix. Mais n&rsquo;en faisant pas partie, je n&rsquo;avais \u00e9videmment aucun \u00e9l\u00e9ment de preuve. Bien conseill\u00e9 par mon avocat Ma\u00eetre Bricogne, de Vogel &amp; Vogel, j&rsquo;ai jou\u00e9 au plus fin : en septembre 2006, j&rsquo;ai appel\u00e9 tous mes confr\u00e8res pour les pr\u00e9venir que j&rsquo;allais les assigner, tout en les informant de cette proc\u00e9dure de cl\u00e9mence qui pouvait leur permettre d&rsquo;\u00e9chapper \u00e0 la sanction.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Quelle a \u00e9t\u00e9 leur r\u00e9action ?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Aussit\u00f4t, mais je ne l&rsquo;ai appris qu&rsquo;avec la d\u00e9cision de mercredi, Solvadis, puis Brenntag et enfin Univar ont fonc\u00e9 \u00e0 l&rsquo;Autorit\u00e9 de la concurrence pour demander la cl\u00e9mence. En \u00e9change de leur pleine et enti\u00e8re coop\u00e9ration. Le r\u00e9sultat a \u00e9t\u00e9 meilleur qu&rsquo;escompt\u00e9 puisque, ce faisant, la charge de la preuve leur incombait. Les m\u00e9faits \u00e9clataient enfin en plein jour. Et, mieux encore, Brenntag n&rsquo;\u00e9tant pas arriv\u00e9 le premier devant l&rsquo;Autorit\u00e9, elle a \u00e9t\u00e9 lourdement condamn\u00e9e (47 millions d&rsquo;euros). Si elle \u00e9tait arriv\u00e9e en t\u00eate des repentis, elle aurait re\u00e7u l&rsquo;immunit\u00e9 totale (comme Solvadis).<\/p>\n<p><strong>Justice a donc \u00e9t\u00e9 rendue ?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ce n&rsquo;est pas fini. Le dossier pour\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.challenges.fr\/tag_lexique-economique\/abus-de-position-dominante_5338\/\">abus de position dominante<\/a>\u00a0que j&rsquo;ai ouvert en 2002 est \u00e0 nouveau entre les mains de l&rsquo;Autorit\u00e9 de la concurrence [ndlr : apr\u00e8s d\u00e9cision de la cour de Cassation en f\u00e9vrier 2008]. J&rsquo;attends \u00e9galement que le Tribunal de commerce de Bordeaux d\u00e9termine mon pr\u00e9judice et les dommages et int\u00e9r\u00eats que Brenntag devra me verser maintenant que le cartel est av\u00e9r\u00e9. Enfin, j&rsquo;appelle toutes les victimes de ces pratiques, qu&rsquo;il s&rsquo;agisse des concurrents comme moi, mais aussi les fournisseurs qui \u00e9taient oblig\u00e9s de passer par Brenntag, et, \u00e9videmment les clients qui ont subi des hausses tarifaires injustifi\u00e9es, \u00e0 se porter partie civile et r\u00e9clamer, eux aussi, une indemnisation. Je lance, enfin, un appel aux grosses entreprises, comme\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.challenges.fr\/tag_marque\/veolia_3037\/\">Veolia<\/a>\u00a0et\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.challenges.fr\/tag_marque\/edf_3039\/\">EDF<\/a>\u00a0par exemple, qui se targuent d&rsquo;avoir un comportement exemplaire en terme de responsabilit\u00e9 sociale, de penser \u00e0 revoir les termes de leurs contrats exclusifs avec Brenntag.<\/p>\n<p>Propos recueillis par Alice M\u00e9rieux<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<\/div>\n<\/div><div class=\"fusion-clearfix\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":14740,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[5],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-14739","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-actualites"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v23.4 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>[Juridique] Comment un patron de PME a fait tomb\u00e9 un cartel dans la chimie - Challenges &#8212; 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